Post by Yastreb on Aug 13, 2023 8:55:46 GMT
One of the orphans in my Christmas orphans thread of 2022 (scambaitingforum.com/thread/1897/christmas-orphans-2022) has an interesting history.
Scammer names have been changed; their emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.
Let’s wind back four years...
13 May 2019
Dear
This is Emmanuel James from South Sudan, i have the sum of US$18.300,000 and 75kg of Gold which is presently in China in care of the delivery diplomat. As i am writing you now, i need you to help me stand as my beneficiary so that the funds can claimed from the diplomat and take it to your country for good investment.
All i need you to do now is to contact the diplomat in China .
I wait to hear from you so that i can send you the details of the diplomat in order for you to contact him.
I will be waiting to hear from you.
Thanks and God Bless you.
Emmanuel James
I decide to be direct in response.
Mr John
You have millions of dollars in China... So explain why I would get involved please. I'm missing something.
Malcolm Reynolds
13 May
I won't you to help me invist my found in your conurty....
Mr John
What makes you think that I could help you with that?
Malcolm Reynolds
Then this shows up... sent from the same email address!
14 May
Dear
This is Vesve john from South Sudan, i have the sum of US$18.300,000 and 75kg of Gold which is presently in China in care of the delivery diplomat. As i am writing you now, i need you to help me stand as my beneficiary so that the funds can claimed from the diplomat and take it to your country for good investment.
All i need you to do now is to contact the diplomat in China for you to meet with him in China
I wait to hear from you so that i can send you the details of the diplomat in order for you to contact him.
I will be waiting to hear from you.
Thanks and God Bless you.
Vesve john
Mr John
Are you related to Emmanuel James? I have to be sure.
Malcolm Reynolds
That scared him away.
14 May
I believe you will help because you are good person
Mr John
Goodness doesn't enter into this. I'm a retired US Marine who teaches survival techniques - and you want a financial expert of some kind.
Malcolm Reynolds
14 May
So you will help me?
What's the point in helping you, dude? I can't do what you're asking me to do.
15 May 2019
Ok thanks
You can't say I didn't tell you.
So that came to an end…
Three and a half years go by, and John Ntiako joins the Christmas orphans thread from 13 to 16 December 2022 (see the thread linked above).
Nothing came of that bait, but seven months later, from the same email address as "Vesve John"…
22 July 2023
My name is John Ntiako and I am from liberia.. . Malcoim Pls I need ur help by helping me to invest my fund in ur country.. Am having 6.5millons dollars and 85kgs of Gold.. Hoping to here from you
Mr Ntiako
I remember that you wrote to me last December, but broke contact without explanation. Given you were in Bunbury camp, I thought you'd most likely died. What really happened?
Malcolm Reynolds
22 July
The box's is with a taxi driver who bring me to Ghana and I need to pay him the sum of 1,500 dollars for me to get my box's out... That is the problem.
I resisted the urge to “misread” wherehouse as whorehouse before, but not this time.
Mr Ntiako
You arrived in Ghana at least eight months ago, and you told me the consignment was in a whore house. How come this taxi driver has it now?
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
That is where they keep any goods of a person who have not not paid any drivers who bring... Is the where house where the driver kept it as soon as I pay him the box's will release to me...
Mr Ntiako
You didn't mention that problem back in last December. Why didn't you?
Another thing; you had $24 million and 150 pounds of gold back then. Now you have a whole lot less! What happened?
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
Are sure is John Ntiako told you that?
My fund 6.5millons dollars and 85kgs of Gold that is what am having... And why I did not mention the problem to you.. I think that the amount of money I take out of the box will solve any problem that will happen..
Mr Ntiako
Yes, you told me those things. And don't refer to yourself in the third person, it makes you seem pretentious.
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
SO WILL YOU HELP ME OUT?
Mr Ntiako
Well, here's the thing. Why should I help you? And if I so choose, how?
Malcolm Reynolds
24 July
I won't you to help me out by helping me pay the bill so that I can get my box's out and if you help me I will give you 50 percent of total amount of the found... Then you will help me invest t in your country. In any investment you think is profitable....
Thanks
Ntiako
Mr Ntiako
Two things.
I have never done investment. I'm a retired US Marine. That's one.
Why do you trust me? That's two.
Malcolm Reynolds
I think “Fournier” is a misspelling of “foreigner”.
25 July
I trust Fournier person because I believe not all is bad or YOU?
Mr Ntiako
If you trust this Fournier guy so much, you won't need any help from me then!
Malcolm Reynolds
26 July
If you know you can't help say it and st alll
Mr Ntiako
What's with your gorram attitude? Out of the blue you said you trusted Fournier, whoever he is, which I thought meant you didn't need me any longer. Just make up your mind is all I'm saying!
27 July
OK am sorry I did not understand what you meant... Am still trying to see if I can get buyer on my phone to know how much I will get
Mr Ntiako
You're looking for a buyer? Just what are you selling?
Malcolm Reynolds
27 July
Phone
Mr Ntiako
That's a bit extreme, but needs must as the fat lady sings, I guess.
So what now?
Malcolm Reynolds
28 July
Now I have 300 dollars... Will you help me with the balance 1,200 dollar?
Mr Ntiako
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that I send you that money. What happens then?
Malcolm Reynolds
28 July
We will open an account and make the transfer bits by bits.. Then I will come over and meet with you...
Mr Ntiako
We wouldn't open an account; you would do that. But you're taking an awful lot on trust, aren't you? Planning to send me money with no safeguards?
Something I should have asked before; how old are you?
Malcolm Reynolds
1 August
In anything you do there are two things... Trust and risk.. Am 23 years of age
Mr Ntiako
There's risk, and then there's calculated risk. Trust... I'm not a trusting person, and that's a habit developed over many years; more years than you've lived.
Malcolm Reynolds
2 August
Yes before i do that I have to pay the balance amount of 1,200 dollars so that they will release the box to me... Then I take money from inside to open the account....
So hope you will help me out with the balance amount...
Mr Ntiako
So I send you $1200, you get your boxes out... and here's the thing. What guarantee do I have that you'll go ahead with the deal? Nothing that I can see!
Malcolm Reynolds
2 August
If you could remember when you ask me about sending my fund to you and I don't know...
If you could remember I said to you it about trust and if you help me out why will I not keep to as pleand
YOU JUST HAVE TO TRUST
Mr Ntiako
Here's the thing; I have no reason to trust you. It occurs to me that it could be simpler than you taking my money, retrieving your boxes from the whorehouse and then not keeping your promises. You could be a grifter, pure and simple, trying to deceive me into sending money for nothing.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
Am not deceiveing you only God knows am telling you truth.... But if you don't still believe me fine
Sometimes some one most take risk to succeed
Thanks
Ntiako
Mr Ntiako
Swearing by God is meaningless. I have no religion. Quoting desk calendar fluff doesn't mean anything either.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
OK the thing is to have trust in each other.....
Mr Ntiako
I'm not a trusting person, and that's a habit developed over many years; more years than you've lived. Distrust is one reason that I'm still alive.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
OK thanks
Maybe Fournier will trust you. Anyway, not my problem.
Scammer names have been changed; their emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.
Let’s wind back four years...
13 May 2019
Dear
This is Emmanuel James from South Sudan, i have the sum of US$18.300,000 and 75kg of Gold which is presently in China in care of the delivery diplomat. As i am writing you now, i need you to help me stand as my beneficiary so that the funds can claimed from the diplomat and take it to your country for good investment.
All i need you to do now is to contact the diplomat in China .
I wait to hear from you so that i can send you the details of the diplomat in order for you to contact him.
I will be waiting to hear from you.
Thanks and God Bless you.
Emmanuel James
I decide to be direct in response.
Mr John
You have millions of dollars in China... So explain why I would get involved please. I'm missing something.
Malcolm Reynolds
13 May
I won't you to help me invist my found in your conurty....
Mr John
What makes you think that I could help you with that?
Malcolm Reynolds
Then this shows up... sent from the same email address!
14 May
Dear
This is Vesve john from South Sudan, i have the sum of US$18.300,000 and 75kg of Gold which is presently in China in care of the delivery diplomat. As i am writing you now, i need you to help me stand as my beneficiary so that the funds can claimed from the diplomat and take it to your country for good investment.
All i need you to do now is to contact the diplomat in China for you to meet with him in China
I wait to hear from you so that i can send you the details of the diplomat in order for you to contact him.
I will be waiting to hear from you.
Thanks and God Bless you.
Vesve john
Mr John
Are you related to Emmanuel James? I have to be sure.
Malcolm Reynolds
That scared him away.
14 May
I believe you will help because you are good person
Mr John
Goodness doesn't enter into this. I'm a retired US Marine who teaches survival techniques - and you want a financial expert of some kind.
Malcolm Reynolds
14 May
So you will help me?
What's the point in helping you, dude? I can't do what you're asking me to do.
15 May 2019
Ok thanks
You can't say I didn't tell you.
So that came to an end…
Three and a half years go by, and John Ntiako joins the Christmas orphans thread from 13 to 16 December 2022 (see the thread linked above).
Nothing came of that bait, but seven months later, from the same email address as "Vesve John"…
22 July 2023
My name is John Ntiako and I am from liberia.. . Malcoim Pls I need ur help by helping me to invest my fund in ur country.. Am having 6.5millons dollars and 85kgs of Gold.. Hoping to here from you
Mr Ntiako
I remember that you wrote to me last December, but broke contact without explanation. Given you were in Bunbury camp, I thought you'd most likely died. What really happened?
Malcolm Reynolds
22 July
The box's is with a taxi driver who bring me to Ghana and I need to pay him the sum of 1,500 dollars for me to get my box's out... That is the problem.
I resisted the urge to “misread” wherehouse as whorehouse before, but not this time.
Mr Ntiako
You arrived in Ghana at least eight months ago, and you told me the consignment was in a whore house. How come this taxi driver has it now?
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
That is where they keep any goods of a person who have not not paid any drivers who bring... Is the where house where the driver kept it as soon as I pay him the box's will release to me...
Mr Ntiako
You didn't mention that problem back in last December. Why didn't you?
Another thing; you had $24 million and 150 pounds of gold back then. Now you have a whole lot less! What happened?
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
Are sure is John Ntiako told you that?
My fund 6.5millons dollars and 85kgs of Gold that is what am having... And why I did not mention the problem to you.. I think that the amount of money I take out of the box will solve any problem that will happen..
Mr Ntiako
Yes, you told me those things. And don't refer to yourself in the third person, it makes you seem pretentious.
Malcolm Reynolds
23 July
SO WILL YOU HELP ME OUT?
Mr Ntiako
Well, here's the thing. Why should I help you? And if I so choose, how?
Malcolm Reynolds
24 July
I won't you to help me out by helping me pay the bill so that I can get my box's out and if you help me I will give you 50 percent of total amount of the found... Then you will help me invest t in your country. In any investment you think is profitable....
Thanks
Ntiako
Mr Ntiako
Two things.
I have never done investment. I'm a retired US Marine. That's one.
Why do you trust me? That's two.
Malcolm Reynolds
I think “Fournier” is a misspelling of “foreigner”.
25 July
I trust Fournier person because I believe not all is bad or YOU?
Mr Ntiako
If you trust this Fournier guy so much, you won't need any help from me then!
Malcolm Reynolds
26 July
If you know you can't help say it and st alll
Mr Ntiako
What's with your gorram attitude? Out of the blue you said you trusted Fournier, whoever he is, which I thought meant you didn't need me any longer. Just make up your mind is all I'm saying!
Malcolm Reynolds
He accepted that rebuke meekly enough.
OK am sorry I did not understand what you meant... Am still trying to see if I can get buyer on my phone to know how much I will get
Mr Ntiako
You're looking for a buyer? Just what are you selling?
Malcolm Reynolds
27 July
Phone
Mr Ntiako
That's a bit extreme, but needs must as the fat lady sings, I guess.
So what now?
Malcolm Reynolds
28 July
Now I have 300 dollars... Will you help me with the balance 1,200 dollar?
Mr Ntiako
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that I send you that money. What happens then?
Malcolm Reynolds
28 July
We will open an account and make the transfer bits by bits.. Then I will come over and meet with you...
Mr Ntiako
We wouldn't open an account; you would do that. But you're taking an awful lot on trust, aren't you? Planning to send me money with no safeguards?
Something I should have asked before; how old are you?
Malcolm Reynolds
1 August
In anything you do there are two things... Trust and risk.. Am 23 years of age
Mr Ntiako
There's risk, and then there's calculated risk. Trust... I'm not a trusting person, and that's a habit developed over many years; more years than you've lived.
Malcolm Reynolds
2 August
Yes before i do that I have to pay the balance amount of 1,200 dollars so that they will release the box to me... Then I take money from inside to open the account....
So hope you will help me out with the balance amount...
Mr Ntiako
So I send you $1200, you get your boxes out... and here's the thing. What guarantee do I have that you'll go ahead with the deal? Nothing that I can see!
Malcolm Reynolds
2 August
If you could remember when you ask me about sending my fund to you and I don't know...
If you could remember I said to you it about trust and if you help me out why will I not keep to as pleand
YOU JUST HAVE TO TRUST
Mr Ntiako
Here's the thing; I have no reason to trust you. It occurs to me that it could be simpler than you taking my money, retrieving your boxes from the whorehouse and then not keeping your promises. You could be a grifter, pure and simple, trying to deceive me into sending money for nothing.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
Am not deceiveing you only God knows am telling you truth.... But if you don't still believe me fine
Sometimes some one most take risk to succeed
Thanks
Ntiako
Mr Ntiako
Swearing by God is meaningless. I have no religion. Quoting desk calendar fluff doesn't mean anything either.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
OK the thing is to have trust in each other.....
Mr Ntiako
I'm not a trusting person, and that's a habit developed over many years; more years than you've lived. Distrust is one reason that I'm still alive.
Malcolm Reynolds
3 August
OK thanks
Maybe Fournier will trust you. Anyway, not my problem.
Have a nice day.
And that was it, folks.
Thanks for reading.
x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)