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Post by Yastreb on Dec 18, 2022 6:13:57 GMT
Christmas is coming, the geese are getting fat
Time to spend a penny in an "orphan's" hat.
Here are the Christmas Orphans of 2022. There may be more coming. We'll see. Scammer names have been changed; their emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.
13 December My name is John Ntiako and I am from liberia...malcoim .. Pls I need ur help by helping me to invest my fund in ur country.. Am having 24 millons dollars and 150kgs of Gold.. Hoping to here from you
Well, that was sorta minimalist. I'll need some more information!
Mr Ntiako Who gave you my email address? I'd like to know that before all else. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
13 December Pastor Vanessa she do come to camp to prey for us.. She is the person who give your contact email address... THANKS JOHN
Not the most credible answer as far as Mal's concerned!
Mr Ntiako Well, that's just gorram weird. I've got no religion. She must know someone who knows me, because I don't know her. But there's something that's puzzling me; you said about being in a camp, but you're talking about having $24 million and 150 kilos of gold. I don't understand that. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
14 December Mr malcoim the consignment is not with me in the CAMP... The consignment is where house..
At first I read that as "whore house." But then I'm the kind who would see the potential humour in just about anything.
Mr Ntiako OK, let's hold it there. Do me a favor, please. Give me the full breakdown of who you are, where you are, and why you're there; then what the deal is with that money and gold. I prefer being fully informed. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
15 December Am here to meet with Mr Howard but is he us no more.. That is why AM HERE... but than I meet with pastor who give me your contact... THANKS JOHN PLEASE MR MALCOIM GO TO THE POINT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT KNOW
He doesn't get the concept of "answering questions" too well. And that's the second time he spelled "Malcolm" as "Malcoim." But I'll let it pass.
Mr Ntiako I didn't ask about whether you were planning to meet someone. That's not what I want to know. So I'll try again, but in a different way. You say you're from Liberia, but you're in a camp. Where is the camp? Why are you in that camp? Where is the money and the gold? That'll do for a start. Malcolm Reynolds
15 December Bunbury camp here in Accra Ghana.. And the consignment is in a where house.
I remember the name "Bunbury" from The Important Of Being Ernest. It's also a place in Western Australia. I'll keep that for later.
Mr Ntiako Let me guess. Bunbury camp is for refugees. Am I right? Malcolm Reynolds
Minimalism peaks...
16 December Yes
Mr Ntiako Honestly... you could have told me all that at the very beginning. Now explain just what you want me to do. Malcolm Reynolds
Just before I answered that last email, another orphan script landed in my inbox, and it wasn't minimalist, no sirree...
16 December Hello Mr malcolm, this is David from Dr Congo. My father was the minister of mineral resources in my country but he was killed during the political crisis in my country am the next of kid I inherited my late father properties both cash and kind. My late father die and leave a huge amount of funds $12.5 Million USD which he in a security company in ghana but I have claimed it to kotoka international airport Ghana awaiting shipment to any reliable trustworthy person who will stand as a beneficiary to enable me ship the funds to his country then think of any viable investment to untilzed the fund on profitable. 30% of the total funds will be map out for your effort if this offer is granted. All the documents that covers this fund are with me if you want me to send them to you I can do so. Mind you this transaction has to be kept private and confidential between both parties till the funds get to your country. If the funds is being ship to your country I will fly down to join you and invest the funds. I will be greatful if this offer is granted then send me you mail address so I send you the documents and proceed proceeds. Regards, Dennis
Mr Azim Just hold on a moment! You're being too hasty. You get nowhere in life if you're too hasty. First things first; where did you get my email address? Regards Malcolm Reynolds
And that's it for now.
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Post by Yastreb on Dec 23, 2022 5:09:40 GMT
New scammers, coming out!
21 December
Good Afternoon,My name is Jane K... and my brother Frank K...,we are Kenyan National,who is currently at the refugee camp here in Accra-Ghana.Please i will like you to assist me and my brother to retrieve and receive our consignment over there in America that contains $25million United States dollars and some quantity of gold and Diamond, which I cannot specify. The consignment is presently in America.The consignments get to America through the help of a diplomatic courier agent Mr.Chambas Mohamed IBN The fact is that Mr.Chambas M... IBN is suppose to have delivered the consignment to a man called MR.WAYNE R... in America. The week Mr.Chambas M... IBN is suppose to deliver the consignment to him, when he got to America after clearing the consignment from the Airport,he call MR.Wayne R... to tell him the description to his house. for the delivery, but his wife answered the call and told Mr.Chambas M... IBN that her husband MR. Wayne R... hard a fatal car accident which lead to his death some few hours later.MR.WAYNE R... has already paid the demur rages from the security company, he paid for Bullion van that took the consignment to the airport and he paid for custom check report he also assisted us in getting the DRUG / ANTI TERRORIST CERTIFICATE, but he has already acquire it, but unfortunately he died in a car accident, that was why Mr. Chambas M... IBN has to deposit the consignment with a warehouse over there in America and called us to informed us about what is happening,and told us to look for a new beneficiary to receive the consignment. So please i will like you to assist me and my brother to receive the consignment from the diplomat in America NOW. If you accept to assist us in being our new beneficiary please kindly get back to us so we can contact the courier agent in America,confirming you to him as our new beneficiary for immediate delivery of our consignment to you. Please, do reply. Thanks and God bless you. Jane & Frank K....+233***.+233***
Rather than give the standard reply asking where they got my address, I try something else.
Dear Jane and Frank I don't know if I can help you. Your consignment is in America, but I'm not. That would make it impossible. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
And the floodgates open! All these arrived on 22 December.
1159 Good evening sir.i contacted you to assist me and my sister .On this because we cant handle it alone, we are little kids that need your support daddy .this real daddy and hundred percent . I am telling you sir, I and my sister got your number from a refugee father here .pls daddy we little kids that really need you on this pls sir we trusted and have the belief that you will stand for me and my sister on this pls daddy. This is very serious to us and my sister
He's not Frank any longer!
1200 and 1203
daddy this the information and sir please contact them to deliver our consignment to you.We are ready to give you 40% of the total sum and some quantity of Gold and diamond then the rest we be invested in a profitable business and you will help us to secured our visa for us to live a good life our late father plan for us sir. Primary Assets and Fiscal Management logistics Services Contact name: Lois H..... Email: REDACTED Phone: REDACTED We appreciate your effort to help us sir and GOD ALMIGHTY BL;ESS YOU. Yours Faithfully John and jane K...
They attach two ID cards, and it turns out that he's 20 and she's 18! So much for "little kids"! Oh, and he's called Frank after all...
1206 and 1208 daddy i want you to contact the delivery company so they can deliver to you daddy .this our life daddy we dont have any body to stand for us daddy pls you are the only one i and my sister pray about
1210 and 1222 DADDY THIS THE INFORMATION OF THE LAWYER THAT IS HELPING I AND MY KID SISTER .YOU CAN CONTACT HIM SO THEY CAN DELIVER OUR CONSIGNMENT TO YOU .SO THAT YOU CAN INVEST FOR US AND GIVE I AND AND MY SISTER THE LIFE OUR LATE FATHER PROMISE US BEFORE HE DIED ,DADDY THIS OUR LIFE , CONTACT HIM...Email REDACTED barista phone +233 REDACTED NAME Barrister Issac KwaME Address: REDACTED
OK, enough!
Dear Jane and Frank Firstly; DON'T call me daddy! It was bad enough when my daughter did it, and she stopped that when she hit her teens. You're both adults. Respect yourselves. Secondly, you said that I could help you getting a visa. I can't do that. I'm an American citizen living in Australia. I can't get visas for you. That's a fact. Finally; why would you trust me with all that wealth? You don't know me. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 17, 2023 2:38:05 GMT
Both my Christmas orphans piked out in the end. But I have a New Year's orphan now.
11 January Dear sir, Daddy good day this is me Jonas Savimbi from Sierra Leone and am 26 years old and my sister , I just arrived in Ghana with my consignment and I want you to help me to clear the consignment from the custom so that you can make arrangement to take me and the consignment to your country so that I can have good education, and you invest the consignment for me... $7.5 USD ny father inheritance...And i want to invest the money wisely in a good profitable business over there. we have map out 30% of the total amount for your assistance. .am also waiting for you to forward me your full information for me to know who am dealing with. And also forward your direct telephone line to reach you.hope to hear from you soon thanks
Mr Savimbi Who told you to write to me? Regards Malcolm Reynolds
11 January nobody told me to write you..I write you because I need your help...kindly see to what you can do to help me please..thanks
Let's try again.
Mr Savimbi What I mean is, someone gave you my email address. So who was it? Just curious. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
Well, at least it wasn't a reverend father.
12 January Sir I get your contact from one United nations lawyer who is working for refugee here in Bujumbura refugee camp...I need your help dad..Good morning
Then the orphan gets pushy.
12 January kindly give me your phone number for a better clarification..thanks Jonas
Time to bring him into line!
Mr Savimbi Just hold on there! So far from you it's been all give me this and give me that. You want my "full information" and my phone number... it's time for you to give a little, such as why I should help you. Spell it out, please. Then I'll decide if I'll help you. Deal? Malcolm Reynolds
And he dully* calms down.
13 January Good morning dad....I want you to help for the clearance of my consignment...after that then you will receive the consignment for me in your country as my foreign beneficiary...then you invest the value for us in any lucrative business of your choice...while I wiĺ come and join you in your country to further my education...I do hope you will understand me clearly...thanks Jonas Savimbi
* Not a misprint.
Mr Savimbi Please don't call me dad, or daddy, or anything like that. It's not fitting. Let's break this down. "I want you to help for the clearance of my consignment" - what kind of help? "after that then you will receive the consignment for me in your country as my foreign beneficiary" - explain about this "beneficiary" bit. "then you invest the value for us in any lucrative business of your choice" - I'm not an investor; I'm a retired US Marine. "while I wiĺ come and join you in your country to further my education" - two things. One, why would you need to join me? You're 26 years old, surely you don't need me to manage you. Two, what about your sister? Are you leaving her behind? You've only talked about yourself, not her, which I don't find fitting at all. Malcolm Reynolds
Only $350? Commitment money.
13 January Good morning sir...I call you dad as respect. but if you are not okay with that then forgive me.....the help for the clearance is $350 ..of which we want you to pay for us to clear the consignment from the custom...the consignment contains our father's inheritance....yes you being our foreign beneficiary means..you will receive the inheritance the consignment in your country on our behalf and you will not invest it for us in any lucrative business of your choice...me and my sister will want you to help us come to your country so that we can further our education....thanks Jonathan and his sister
Mr Savimbi Disclosure at last. That's good. On the matter of helping you come to "my country"; that could be a problem. I'm an American citizen, but I haven't lived in the US for many years. Currently I've living in Australia, and as a resident alien I don't have the right to invite you. Malcolm Reynolds
Now the orphan slips up...
14 January Dear Mr Malcom....I understand all your explanation...but that should not stop you from having us..once you are able to receive our consignment and you invest it for us ..we believe there will always be away for us to travel out abroad then coming to you money will be with us once you start to invest the funds for us....So daddy kindly see what you can do to help us so tat we can have a better future thanks Jonas and Laura Savimbi
The emphasised part is in the original.
Mr Savimbi I told you, don't call me daddy! You're 26 years old. The only adult male I know of who calls older men "daddy" is Milo Yiannopoulos, and trust me, you do not want to be like him, ever. Also, a couple of things to mention; I told you before that I'm not an investor; I'm a retired US Marine. Please remember that. And the second is, you're talking about a consignment in customs WRT that $7.5 million. Am I correct in thinking that's cash? Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 18, 2023 0:29:21 GMT
He gives the obvious answer.
17 January yes the consignment is cash awaiting clearance from the custom
Mal asks the obvious question.
Mr Savimbi How is it that you have millions in cash? Malcolm Reynolds
Most likely he'll repeat that it's his "father inheritance". Like that's ever enough...
Meanwhile, another orphan turns up, and he's also from Sierra Leone. But this one has different issues. And why does he think I might have a barrister or an engineer in Ghana? Seriously, dude?
17 January
Good day Sir This is Kamara Sokar from Liberia. I just arrived in Ghana with my consignment containing $5.5 Million dollars through Ghana/Togo border presently in Accra Ghana with my consignment in a hotel called Holiday Inn Hotel along airport residential Area Accra. I have been here since yesterday with my consignment in the hotel and having some issues with the consignment opening/lock due to harassment from the Ghana customs officers who were trying to forcefully open the consignment to know the contents of the boxes, but they were unable to force it open. Sir, after lodging in the hotel ,I paid for some fews days waiting to make arrangements to contact you as a foreign beneficiary with the aid of the refugee camp master who gave me your contact as a trustworthy beneficiary overseas. Sir, the issue right now , due the fact of the customs embarrassment i cannot open the box with the original key , meanwhile the refugee camp master introduce me to a key specialist who charges me $1,500 usd to cut the box open but presently I only having $200 left in my hand out the money I took out from my travel expenses. Please , i want you to assist me if you have any barrister in Accra or any partner that can assist me get a cheaper Engineer to open the box ,kindly give my number to your barrister or Engineer to call me so that I will direct him or her to the hotel and meet the key specialist together and open the box, I'm presently having $200 with me . Thanks and stay blessed. From Kamara Sokar
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Rather than question the story of getting Mal's email address from a "refugee camp master", I ask about something else.
Mr Sokar What exactly do you mean by "foreign beneficiary"? Why would I want that role? Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 19, 2023 23:13:41 GMT
Yep, it's his father's inheritance. Called it!
18 January Dear Mr Malcolm....the money is from our father's inheritance..the money have to be cleared before we can have access to it....that is why we need your help for the clearance so we can have access to cash thanks Jonas and Laura
If any casino owners should read this and be offended at their profession being included in that list... I make no apologies.
Mr Savimbi That's what concerns me. The only people who have large amounts of cashy money like that are not decent people. I'm talking about drug dealers, loan sharks, arms traders, casino owners, money launderers, and the like. Why would your father have that much in cash? That's my point. Malcolm Reynolds
Jonas doesn't help his case.
19 January our father's was a gold merchant anđ was also a government official and that is were they make their money...they were not involved in money laundry...no drugs and any related iĺlict sales of any drug involve.be inform...thanks the Savimbis
Mal is suitably sardonic (italics in original).
Mr Savimbi Your father was a government official. That would explain a lot. Backhanders, brown envelopes, squeeze, thankful money... trust me, I've seen all of those. Plus I notice you denied drug dealing and money laundry but not the rest. I get it. Pecunia non olet. Money doesn't smell. But here's the thing; I doubt that the Feds in Australia and the US would be so understanding. You try to ship cashy money to Australia, the customs will find it. I can't imagine them averting their eyes. And then I'd be in a world of hurt. Malcolm Reynolds
20 January shipping the cash to you. you do not have any problem as all the regards documents are in the consignment box..thanks
Mr Savimbi You wrote, "all the regards documents are in the consignment box" what documents do you mean? Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 21, 2023 4:14:44 GMT
The orphan answers.
20 January Dear sir meaning..certificate of origin of the funds and the anti laundry certificate...meaning the funds is not from drug activity
Mr Savimbi Anti-laundry certificate, fine, but what does this "certificate of origin" cover? I need to know details. Malcolm Reynolds
20 January (sent twice)
the certificate covers the funds....meaning the funds is not a proceed of fraud or from illicit sales of drugs.
Mal still has misgivings.
Mr Savimbi So this certificate of origin shows that the money is an inheritance; fine.
So the money wasn't made by selling drugs; fine.
There's still the small matter of your father being a government official who had millions in cashy money; American currency, I suppose. There's more than a hint of corruption in that. More to the point, like I said before, if you ship this consignment to me, it won't get past Customs. They will ask a bunch of questions, certificates or no certificates, and I don't know what answers I could give to keep me out of trouble. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 22, 2023 11:00:31 GMT
And they keep on coming!
20 January Good day Sir Please my names are Mr Rupert Kamal from Sudan, sir I have consignment that worth $60,000000 us dollars in the custody of costumes in Ghana harbour port in west Africa, can you assist me to claim it to your country so that both of us could use it for investment? And the clearance fee is (Three thousand five hundred us dollars,) ($3500:00) and I'm stranded for now I'm in refugee camp in Ghana. Please I needs your assistance and urgent reply sir through this my email, REDACTED.
Mr Kamal What exactly do you went me to do? And why did you choose me to contact? Malcolm Reynolds
Why me, Lord?
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 23, 2023 5:12:26 GMT
Kamara Sokar hadn't replied, so I tried to call him. No joy there. A terse email was justified.
Mr Sokar I wrote back five days ago, and you haven't replied. You're also not answering your phone. Do you still want me to help you? Malcolm Reynolds
The guyman replied promptly this time! But the comment about calling me back had me puzzling, because there shouldn't have been a number to call back. Then I remembered that sometimes Skype will cause a receiving phone to display a number that isn't yours.
23 January Dear Mr Malcolm Sorry for not attending your calls , I missed your cals and its didn't show the Country number I should have called you back. Meanwhile I really want you to help me so that after opening the box I can go and start transferring the funds to you and send an invitation to fly to your Country to start and further my education.
Being prompt doesn't earn cookies, though.
Mr Sokar You could have written back; why didn't you? If you need my help, I shouldn't have to be the proactive one here! So let me clear this up; being your beneficiary means "opening the box I can go and start transferring the funds to you and send an invitation to fly to your Country to start and further my education" - confirm if this is true. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 24, 2023 7:35:13 GMT
Sokar obligingly "clarifies".
Dear, Yes I confirm what I am saying is the sincere fact ,I have chosen you as my beneficiary. Therefore , the first thing is to get the engineer open box and have access , Another engineer agreed to open the box at the cost of 800usd. and I am having $200 with me, please kindly assist in time because am owning the hotel management some days I slept in the hotel not paid but I promise to pay them before this weekend
Mal eventually made a phone call, and...
Oh well.
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Post by Yastreb on Jan 25, 2023 9:38:15 GMT
Jonas Savimbi is still in the game, and it's all so simple!
24 January you have no trouble with that, you tell them you made a business here in Africa. No one will question on that. and beside I have help a lot of people with huge amounts of money more than this so you have nothing to worry about. OK you have my word on this.
Is it?
Mr Savimbi That may seem so easy to you, but it's also a lie, and the customs in Australia ain't so easily fooled as the ones over there. And once I have all this cashy money, what then? Do I just keep it in my storm shelter? Put it in the bank? What? Additionally, the odds are good that the IRS will hear that I'm claiming to have been doing business that I didn't mention before, and that is where the real problems will begin. I don't want any trouble with the IRS, because they are ruthless. Hell, there's a joke about how the KGB wore IRS pajamas. Also, this; "I have help a lot of people with huge amounts of money more than this so you have nothing to worry about" - if you're the SMLE on shifting huge amounts of money, why do you need my help? Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Feb 18, 2023 7:56:44 GMT
After a long delay, Rupert is back!
6 February Good day sir, Sir Can't you be my beneficiary and help me claim my consignment to your country for investment?
Mr Kamal You sort of asked me that before. What I said that still stands. Do you have any answers? Malcolm Reynolds
13 February What did you said before sir? Cos i really needs help actually please sir.
<Sigh>
Mr Kamal What I asked you before was this. What exactly do you went me to do? And why did you choose me to contact? Malcolm Reynolds
16 February Dear Malcolm. Please I wants you to assist me to claim my goods from the costumes, cos my consignment have be apprehended by the customs, and I wants you to assist me to claim it as my beneficiary, cos my father was killed dury the crises in my country Sudan, so if you can help I don't mind to follow you to your country for investment. I'm choosing you cos I believes you can assist me to settle with the custom, so if you can help me then I will contact you with one of the custom agent to discuss with sir. My regards. Rupert Kamal.
This is getting annoying (emphasis in original).
Mr Kamal Explain about the customs. Explain about being a beneficiary. Explain about why you chose me to contact. Important tip; if you don't give an answer to this question, nothing will happen. Malcolm Reynolds
18 February Oh sir it was one pastor that gave me your contact in refugees calmp and said I should contact you to assist me sir, So that's why I contact you sir, please don't be offended sir, just that I actually needs help and you will also benefits from it sir.
What is it with these gorram pastors?
Mr Kamal A pastor? I don't know any pastors. I'm an atheist! Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Feb 19, 2023 10:58:26 GMT
It looks like Mal's atheism is a bridge too far! "IJMN" most likely stands for "In Jesus' Mighty Name."
18 February
Oh that means you don't believe in God? Please you can forget that it, your question is too much, A good Samaritan will assist me ijmn
Mr Kamal You don't want my help then? Because I have no religion? Well, that's just too bad, but if you want it that way, it's your call. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Feb 28, 2023 9:45:25 GMT
Another one shows up. As summer's ending Down Under, I'll make him the last one for this thread.
20 February Hello Sir My Name is Zachary Buthelezi from South Africa. Son to late Samkelo Buthelezi a gold merchant from South Africa, I live at a refugee shelter in New York, USA. I was able to get here with the assistance of the travel agency with the aim to continue with my late fathers business venture. My late father had a mining project in Afghanistan which he concluded and exported Before his untimely death, he deposited 124.43Kg of gold in a bank vault in America, i have attempted to retrieve the gold as the next of kin to my late father . I have contacted an attorney to assist me who now demanded that I should make available all documents of ownership of the gold as well as providing a beneficiary to enable me get through with this. i see you as a father and more experienced and will be able to stand and assist in my clai only need you to assist me as my beneficiary to get the gold cleared out and I am willing to give you 30% of the total quantity. if you are interested get back to me so that we can know the way forward, i will furnish you with all the legal documents that covers the gold ownership after i hear from you Yours sincerely Zachary Buthelezi
Mr Buthelezi I'm a bit puzzled by your message. Why do you need my help? And where did you get my email address? Regards Malcolm Reynolds
22 February Greetings Sir, i need your help because i see you as a reliable , competent and trusted person that could assist me in retrieving my gold from the bank. Please sir this is genuine and a clean deal, i got all the legal documents that covers the ownership of the gold. I got your email from the United Nation records of a good standing beneficiary so I decided to write to you sir. After i hear from you i will send you all legal documents that covers the gold and the way forward Waiting to hear from you soon Faithfully Zachary
I'm going to ask him a bunch of questions, and I want them answered immediately!
Mr Buthelezi Why are you having problems with your gold? Why do you need assistance from a complete stranger? You wrote this: "I have contacted an attorney to assist me who now demanded that I should make available all documents of ownership of the gold as well as providing a beneficiary to enable me get through with this". What the hell is going on? Why did he say that? Also, this bit: "I got your email from the United Nation records of a good standing beneficiary" - what does that mean? Malcolm Reynolds
He sends some answers. Not good ones, but hey.
23 February
Greetings Sir Firstly the gold was deposited by my late father with records that he and his associate are involved in this business transaction all that was put into record on arrival of the gold to USA and aslo on depositing the gold, as he is not available anymore the bank demand to confirm his partner or beneficiary before release and most importantly i do not have a license to operate on gold dealing So its not the lawyer that made those demands it was the bank , the lawyer is only responsible to sign all legal agreements . Yes i told you i got your email from the UN records as i search to know a reliable citizen with good records Please get back to me let me let you know the way forward Faithfully Zachary
Mr Buthelezi The bank told you that you have to have a beneficiary or partner to claim your own property? I can't believe a bank has the right or power to set rules like that! Speaking of right and power, I'm dumbfounded that the United Nations could have given you my details; the only dealings I ever had with the UN were peace-keeping duties, and they'd have no reason to keep my details on file. Malcolm Reynolds
24 February Hello Sir They didnt give me your details , i was the one that did my research from the Un records and got your email the most important thing here is that i have my gold logged with the bank and i need your support in retrieving them . Are you willing to do this with me? There are no much no do about this , the bank is responsible for the delivery to you , we might only have one or few little settlement to get through with this, as you can see that i have copies of authentic vital documents that covers the gold Please get back to me ASAP so we can know the way forward. Yours faithfully Isaac
I give a little ground.
Mr Buthelezi Explain what needs to be done to get your gold from the bank; all the steps and processes. In my past career, getting all the details about any operation was vital to survival. Malcolm Reynolds
Aha! Now we're in the main game!
26 February Good day Sir Thank you for your support and understanding in this matter, like i said before we do not have much to do here in regards to the release of the gold, The gold has been on safe keeping in the bank I have presented you to the bank as my beneficiary with the legal authentication by the lawyer ,the bank only demands for the payment of safekeeping charges of 4,700 dollars. The gold will be released in your favor as soon as the payment is confirmed and delivery will be made to you as once to the delivery address that you will provide to us, there is no cost of delivery as the bank is responsible for the delivery. Get back to me so that we can know the way forward Faithfully Zachary
Not so fast there, Bubba-Louie!
Mr Buthelezi Something I missed in your first email to me; you wrote, "I live at a refugee shelter in New York, USA" - how come you're a refugee? Malcolm Reynolds
27 February Good day Sir You have asked me all questions that could come to your mind and i have given you straight answers as the case maybe , you finally asked me what the bank requires of me and i told you nothing apart from the demurrage charges for safekeeping of the gold sir. I have nothing sir. I am only 19years of age , I have no contact here in the USA , and was only able to get here through the help of a travel agent. i am from South Africa and i won't be able to afford an apartment here neither can i afford living in an hotel. The only option was to be in the camp as a refugee where I can get free food and shelter pending when my gold is released . That is the reason why I am in the refugee shelter in New York sir. Faithfully Zachary
Mr Buthelezi You approached me for help, and as I see it, I have the perfect right to ask questions. If you'd made things totally clear from the outset, I wouldn't have to ask them. Just bear that in mind. As for the way forward; the bank has to contact me so that I can finalize matters at this end. Please tell them to write to me. Something else to be considered is, what happens to you after the gold gets shipped? That hasn't been touched on, and it should have been. Malcolm Reynolds
The scammer is too lazy to have a banker in their cast, it seems.
28 February Good day Sir I have confirmed with the bank as regards contacting you, but they have said that the bank is not in position to contact you now, they will contact you as at when due. That is when we've cleared up the demurrage charge for safekeeping and the release and delivery To you is set then the bank will reach you directly for reconfirmation of delivery address. We are only needed to pay the sum of 4,700USD for safe keeping charges sir, Please get back to me so that i can reach out to the lawyer for the details for you to make the payment. In case you have any other information you need let me know so that i can reach out to the lawyer for information required. Faithfully Zachary lawyer
No, that's not how it's done, ever.
Mr Buthelezi If the bank expects me to pay thousands of dollars for some fee, then they will contact me to explain and justify, and I will be paying them directly, not through your lawyer. No ifs, buts or maybes here; they will contact me. This is not a subject for debate. It's how things are going to be done. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 1, 2023 1:05:20 GMT
Ain't it just amazing what a few harsh words can make possible!
28 February 28TH /02 /23 Vault & Storage Unit Bank of America Fax : REDACTED Good day Malcolm Reynolds Am contacting you in regards to 224 kg of gold bar that was deposited in the bank vault of bank of America belonging to Mr Zachary Buthelezi of South Africa. The above mentioned quantity of gold has been on safe keeping in the bank safety vault since 10Th september 2020 till date. We have received all legal documentation as confirmation of authenticity and ownership of the gold as at the time of deposit. There are rules and regulations binding the operations of the bank and we have kept with the banking rules and regulations with all policies of the banking sector. i want to use this medium to inform you that you have legally being cleared with the bank as the beneficiary and partner to Mr Zachary as indicated by the late father at the time of deposit that the gold is deposited under partnership. All procedures of claim has been reached by the representative lawyer. You are required to pay the total sum of 4,700USD as charges for safe keeping of the gold for 18 months, Your payment should be channeled through our bank agents. I also want to use this opportunity to notify you that the bank is responsible for the delivery to you. The gold will be released and delivered to you to the address that you will provide for us as soon as we confirm evidence of payment of demourage charge. You can reach out to your partner or write me back so that we can furnish you with details to remit the fees to this office. Best Regards Arthur Wilson Vault & Storage Unit Bank Of America
OK... first a quick demand for Mr Wilson to attend to:
Mr Wilson Please send the appropriate invoice for that safe keeping charge. Regards Malcolm Reynolds
And something for the as yet nameless lawyer to do.
Mr Buthelezi Something that needs to be done before the gold gets sent; get your lawyer to create a Power of Attorney that spells out how I'm the custodian of your gold. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by rob419 on Mar 1, 2023 8:20:44 GMT
The name of this thread sounds like the tittle of a Christmas musical "my Christmas orphans" 😂😭🤣
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 6, 2023 7:53:07 GMT
Do I sense some impatience?
2 March Greetings Sir i got your mail, that the lawyer has already partly done and the bank has acknowledged you as my beneficiary or partner to whom the gold will be delivered to . Sir the lawyer demand to get copy of the following information Full Names Residential address valid ID international passport or driver's licence Telephone numbers Sir the major problem is the demorouge charges for safe keeping, have you sorted this out with the bank? That is the only requirement they need for now. Please let me know sir Zachary
But Mal's not having any of that.
Mr Buthelezi Get your lawyer to write to me. If he wants to demand things from me, he can damn well ask me himself. This is not a subject for debate. It's how things are going to be done. Malcolm Reynolds
The banker responds. He's a chatty fellow, sorta.
2 March Good day Malcolm We were looking up on the representative lawyer to provide all required informations that we may need from you, although he was able to sign up a withness letter from his chamber declaring you as the beneficiary to Mr Isaac. You have already been briefed of what is required and demourage charges required before the release of the gold. i shall official send you an invoice in regards to that effect. Please reconfirm the following informations and a complete details to us to enable us conclude with all needed informations to release and deliver the gold to you. 1) Your full Names 2) Delivery / residential address 3)Passport /Valid ID or Drivers License 4)Telephone numbers. I will conclude with your file record immediately i get the required inormation from you and a proforma invoice will be sent to you with charges from the bank vault for safe keeping cost. Get back to me ASAP with progress update from your side. Best Regards Allen
Mal, OTOH, is more tetchy.
Mr Wilson I don't know why I'm hearing about this "withness letter" from you, when I should be hearing that from Mr Kwazulu's lawyer. And as for the invoice, you should have send that already. You wrote, "Please reconfirm the following informations" - I can't reconfirm information that I didn't send you in the first place. Additionally, I'm astounded that you would request a copy of my passport. That hasn't been legal since 9/11, and you surely should know better than to ask. As it stands, I can't send you a copy of a driving license since I don't have one, and "valid ID", explain what you mean. Malcolm Reynolds
That wasn't taken well. He's clearly riled.
3 March Attention Mr Reynolds I want to use this medium to inform you that there are international banking rule and regulations that are followed by any bank or financial institutions. Firstly you are not in any position to make decisions for the bank,we are working with the regulations of the banking sector of the United States of America. I also want to use this medium to enlighten you concerning a bank vault deposit which is meant for safe keeping of valuables of any kind without time limit. This is quite different from your normal bankig transactions of deposit or wire transfer, therefore we are obliged to make certain legal demand for future purposes regards the release and delivery of the gold to you. I am Glad that you know that the lawyer or Mr Zachary was suppose to reach us with all required information but i got several emails from Mr Zachary with pressing demand that we should write to you, as a matter of fact i dont really know what you are upto as you have failed to furnish him or the lawyer with required informations, so far we are able to work to this extent with just your name and email as the lawyer provided i also used the opportunity to brief you all that is needed to be done most especially the charges for safe keeping for 18 month. You have to be in a compromising level with Mr Zachary and the lawyer where they can furnish us with all necessary , so we can prepare your invoice which will be sent to you via Mr Zachary. Then we can finalize with the release and delivery to you. Regards Wilson
Mal's icily polite in return (emphasis in original).
Mr Wilson I'll leave aside my reactions to your entitled attitude... for now, anyway. You wrote, "as a matter of fact i dont really know what you are upto as you have failed to furnish him or the lawyer with required informations" - I wasn't asked for any such information until yesterday. I didn't actually hear from the lawyer until today. So now you know what I'm up to. Here, for the first time, is my personal information. Full Names: Malcolm Reynolds Residential address: REDACTED Telephone numbers: REDACTED valid ID international passport or driver's licence: I can't copy my passport, and you should know that. I don't have a driving license. As for "valid ID"... explain what you mean. Malcolm Reynolds
In the meantime, the lawyer joins the party... and straightaway there's a howler.
3 March Barrister Desmond Greene & Associates Solicitor, Advocate & law firm Hello Reynolds This is barrister Desmond ,representative lawyer to Mr Zachary Buthelezi I have requested your informations from Zachary when i gave a verbal presentation with a write up to the bank as the partner and beneficiary to Mr Zachary. The process of the release of the gold is on going , we are in good communication with the bank vault unit. Please be informed that your valid ID , residential address and telephone numbers is required to finalize the release and delivery to you, you can decide to pass all necessary information through Isaac or send to me so that we can finalize with this. so far we are in a good standing with the bank . Get back to me with necessary information. Thank You Desmond
Mr Desmond I'm glad to be hearing from you at last. It should have been sooner, but never mind. You requested some personal information. Full Names: Malcolm Reynolds Residential address: REDACTED Telephone numbers: REDACTED valid ID international passport or driver's licence: I can't copy my passport, and you should know that. I don't have a driving license. As for "valid ID"... explain what you mean. There's something you need to do before the gold gets sent; create a Power of Attorney that spells out how I'm the custodian of Mr Buthelezi's gold. Malcolm Reynolds
Mal had let the howler slip, but the banker does it again. He also makes another unwitting blunder.
3 March Reynolds Thank you for your email, yes you are right request of Power of Attorney , like i said i already did a verbal introduction with name and email just to enable them proceed with the release of the gold in your favor. Any form of Identification will be accepted the purpose is just to be able to identify you. Also when Zachary comes over because he has said he is coming over to your country. I am already working on this, which will be ready soon, but the most important thing here is the demurrage charges of the bank vault for safe keeping. Also my professional charge of 2300 dollars . Mr Zachary has pleaded with me that i should try all i can to help that he will not want the borden to be much on you so i should finish my job then you can pay me after you must have received the gold which i sympathize with him. The only thing that you must do for me is to pay for authentication fees from the High Court Of Justice which is of 350 USD , my professional duties you can pay when you have received the gold as you have the demurrages charges to settle. Lucky enough you do not have any other responsibility in this as the bank is responsible for the delivery to you. You can send the 350 through bitcoin wallet for quick and urgent process. please get back to me so that i can provide a wallet for you to send . Meanwhile am working on the power of attorney . Best Regards Desmond
Now it's my turn to slip up a little; I forgot that the lawyer is supposed to be in America. "Bitcon" isn't a misprint.
Mr Desmond Three things. Firstly, you will call me Mr Reynolds, not just Reynolds. Is that clear? Secondly, I don't need financial assistance from some third-world shyster. I'm not gorram trailer trash! Thirdly, I don't use Bitcon. Ever. Malcolm Reynolds
Fortunately, the slip wasn't noticed.
4 March
Greeting Mr Reynolds Am sorry for the way i have addressed you without any initials,Also i want you to know that after preparing the power of Attorney will still have to go to the high court of justice for authentication, there i no form of twist here or extortion of any kind and i didnt mean you wont be able to handle the fees on your own . I was only trying to assist in every possible way. My professional charges is truly necessary as preparing the power of Attorney is included as.well. I suggested a bitcoin transfer method as it is faster and instant , since you are not comfortable with that let me give you our company account for you to wire the complete fees of 2,650 USD BANK NAME : WOOD FOREST NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNT NAME :REDACTED BUSINESS Checking account : REDACTED ROUTING NUMBER :REDACTED SWIFT CODE :REDACTED BANK ADDRESS: REDACTED DOUGLASVILLE GA 30134 Please get back to me with evidence of payment slip Thank You Barrister Desmond
Mr Desmond What fees are you talking about me paying? Malcolm Reynolds
Was I that abusive?
4 March Mr Reynolds my professional charges ,which includes the power of attorney is what you are paying , i told you that the power of attorney will be prepared by me, BUT it has to be authenticated by commissioner of oath from the high court of justice which 350 USD would be paid for that as authentication fees, you didn't see it as any support instead you were negative with abusive words about it and claim you dont use bitcoin and you don't share your bills that was why i send you the account details for you to make the full payment on my side for Power of Attorney /professional charge. Desmond
Mr Desmond I've held powers of attorney. I know that they're simple to draw up and don't need to be authenticated by any gorram "high court of justice". You're just padding your bills. Don't try to deny it. As for your "professional charge" - they only get paid when you invoice me. That's how it's done everywhere. Malcolm Reynolds
Meanwhile, Zachary sent this... from the lawyer's account. It ended up in spam, so I didn't answer it.
4 March Greetings Sir how is the situation sir and how far have you gone /, i said let me hear from you, i just hope we can get this resolved by this new week. let me know from your side sir Thanks and God bless you Zachary
Nothing from the bank lately... so I nudged them.
Mr Wilson I asked for some clarification on the ID issue, and you haven't replied. I have another question though; "we can prepare your invoice which will be sent to you via Mr Zachary" - why involved him in that? You should send the invoice to me, directly. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 8, 2023 7:33:34 GMT
The banker Lad finally replies... with a bank account that looked familiar. Yep, it was the same one the "lawyer" supplied! However, there was no invoice.
7 March Good Morning Mr Reynolds We do not have any serious issue with your ID or passport , You can send just your ID number its fine or any means of identification or an ordinary passport picture would do . Regards the invoice i was only trying to say that Isaac or the lawyer can as well furnish us with the information we need from you, NOT the case of your invoice. Please see attachment below for copy of invoice, You are required to make the payment for the demourage charge to enable us release and deliver the gold to you. i have also release details for you to effect the payment ,our bank agent details was sent to the lawyer and that same details you are to use to effect the payment. Please Note that will wont be able to commence with the delivery to you not until we confirm evidence of payment of demourage charge as well as copy of Power Of Attorney. Most importantly i want to use this medium to inform you that the transaction code and security code numbers to access the bank safety box will be release to you from computer data base programming after you have received the gold , this is to ensure maximum safety of your gold. BANK NAME : WOOD FOREST NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNT NAME :REDACTED BUSINESS Checking account : REDACTED ROUTING NUMBER :REDACTED SWIFT CODE :REDACTED BANK ADDRESS: REDACTED DOUGLASVILLE GA 30134 Regards Wilson
Mr Wilson You didn't attach the invoice. Malcolm Reynolds
The lawyer was on the money as well. He did attach an invoice, but there was something wrong with it.
7 March Greetings Mr Reynolds Please i have attached below copy of invoice , Please get back to with proof of payment slip. Best Wishes
The invoice said that $2,850 was needed for a PoA. Mal wasn't having that!
Mr Desmond You don't need $2,850 to create a Power of Attorney. Don't try to throw dust in my eyes. Malcolm Reynolds
The "banker" tried again, this time with the invoice. But it landed in spam, both times.
7 March (sent twice) Good Morning Mr Reynolds We do not have any serious issue with your ID or passport , You can send just your ID number its fine or any means of identification or an ordinary passport picture would do . Regards the invoice i was only trying to say that Isaac or the lawyer can as well furnish us with the information we need from you, NOT the case of your invoice. Please see attachment below for copy of invoice, You are required to make the payment for the demourage charge to enable us release and deliver the gold to you. i have also release details for you to effect the payment ,our bank agent details was sent to the lawyer and that same details you are to use to effect the payment. Please Note that will wont be able to commence with the delivery to you not until we confirm evidence of payment of demourage charge as well as copy of Power Of Attorney. Most importantly i want to use this medium to inform you that the transaction code and security code numbers to access the bank safety box will be release to you from computer data base programming after you have received the gold , this is to ensure maximum safety of your gold. BANK NAME : WOOD FOREST NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNT NAME :REDACTED BUSINESS Checking account : REDACTED ROUTING NUMBER :REDACTED SWIFT CODE :REDACTED BANK ADDRESS: REDACTED DOUGLASVILLE GA 30134 Regards Wilson
A question for the lawyer and the banker...
Mr Desmond, Mr Wills Why is it that you are both asking me to send money to the same bank account? Malcolm Reynolds
The lawyer replies, and he ain't in a good mood.
7 March
Mr Reynolds You seems to be some joker out there, because you asked for invoice before paying what you are due to pay,at the end of the day you came up with such abnormal words , i see you are out there to waste peoples time maybe this is some kind of jokes or something. The account came from the bank agents and Mr Wills adviced that any payment made by you in regards to the release of the gold to you MUST pass through the same payment information for their records,so i could not have given you another one. I think weve crossed the limit, we wait to see if you are serious or playing your own games. I will conclude with this transaction after i confirm receipt of payment from you as i have handled my part accordingly. Barr Desmond
Mr Desmond The more you write me, the more I can't trust you. You've tried to charge hundreds of dollars for something that basically costs nothing; twenty dollars at most. And you expect your professional fees to be paid in advance, which is not what lawyers do, at least in my experience. You've given me some bafflegab about paying both your and the bank's fees to the same account (your company account, you said), which makes no sense. Final note; Buthelezi sent me an email from your account... how did that happen? Malcolm Reynolds
8 March Mr Renolds Are you really ok because you act like a junk and take this like a child's play. I have to Isaac that you are totally unreliable , its better hee find other means To resolve this issue, I wasted my precious time here.
Mr Desmond It's pretty clear that you're no more than a petty grifter, so you can go shove your precious time up your fat ass. Malcolm Reynolds
Zachary is looking for clarification and reassurance.
8 March GOOD DAY SIR BARRISTER DESMOND SAID AFTER ALL SAID AND DONE INVOICE WAS SENT TO YOU AND YOU KEEP MAKING UNNECESSARY DEMAND AND EXCUSES THAT YOU REFUSE TO PAY HIS PROFESSIONAL CHARGES AFTER YOU WERE GIVEN THE INVOICE THAT YOU DEMANDED, HE SEES YOU AS A JUNK SIR, I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE WHAT AM HEARING THAT IS WHY I AM WRITING YOU. PLEASE IF YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS WITH ME LET ME KNOW SO I DON'T CONTINUE TO WASTE MY TIME ,SO THAT I CAN LOOK FOR A SERIOUS PERSON. WE HAVE MEET UP TO ALL DEMAND FROM YOUR SIDE, PLEASE BE STRAIGHT FOR ONCE ZACHARY
Mr Buthelezi Given that Barrister Desmond is a petty little grifter trying to scam money from me with spurious charges, I told him to shove his precious time up his fat ass. You're singing from the same song sheet as Desmond, so I have to wonder about you. Malcolm Reynolds
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 9, 2023 8:35:42 GMT
Things are wrapping up now. First the lawyer chips in...
8 March I am not surprised i thought as much when you started making unecessary demands, i dont know where zachary picked you from , one would think you are useful, but you just a an empty junk . Let the young man look for a useful person
This went to all three scammer accounts in hope of getting a reaction.
Look for an honest job is my advice to all of you, unless you don't mind being poor all of your miserable lives.
No such luck! Instead...
8 March Dear Mr Reynolds, You are right he advised me not to be sending mails from public servers so i take my time to go to his office to send my mails. Seriously i was looking at you like a responsible man who is doing well, but i cant really judge now from what i am seeing, after you demanded for reasons of payment which you agreed and later demanded for invoice in regards to the payment and all was put before you but what did you do ? you came up with flames excuses and complain, i am shocked and disappointed. You shouldn't have been wasting my time. Anyway its alright. There is no need insulting you i didnt grow up that way, i will move on and i hope to meet a useful and reliable person . Good day Zachary
Oh well. I send another parting shot (emphasis in original).
Holy shit on a shingle... it's uncanny how you and Desmond sound so alike. Almost as if you might be, you know, the same person?
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